How long do orcs live lotr

Alatar of Rhun. Coenus Scaldingus. Elven Warrior. Ares B. Isilduhrr wrote: On a somewhat related not, how do orcs breed? Tolkien wrote in a letter: "There must have been orc-women. But in stories that seldom if ever see the Orcs except as soldiers of armies in the service of the evil lords we naturally would not learn much about their lives.

Not much was known. Elven Elder. Laevos wrote: There does not seem to be a given limit to the lifespan of orcs. That's in the movies. In the books goblins and orcs were the same, hobbits called them goblins, most everyone else called them orcs. Uruk was elvish for orc, so it's the same word really. Uruk-hai were the different breed. They were bigger, stronger and could tolerate the sun. Ares B wrote: Isilduhrr wrote: On a somewhat related not, how do orcs breed?

As for the movies, I have a theory: Orcs come from spawning pits, but only in the presence of a Maiar or similar being, after which the orc takes some characteristics. Tolkien said that Morgoth had put so much of his power into Middle-Earth that it was basically his Ring. A being of enough power might have been able to utilize the corrupted earth itself to make orcs.

This would explain the differences in orcs. Sauron is mass producing orcs possibly with help from the Nazgul , which is why they are pretty low quality, but he's also specially producing uruk-hai, which is why they are much higher quality. Saruman did pretty much the same, with the exception that he perfected the art of making Uruk-Hai, which is why his army consisted almost exclusively of them.

Goblins in Moria were made by the Balrog, but since he wasn't all that interested in leading them, they were much smaller and weaker creatures than Sauron's orcs. The orcs from Angmar would be made by the Witch-King. Trolls are all but confirmed to be made from actual stone, so I don't think it would be much of a jump to make orcs from earth. They were generally squat, broad, flat-nosed, sallow-skinned, bow-legged, with wide mouths and slant eyes, long arms, dark skin, and fangs.

Tolkien describes one "huge Orc chieftain" as "almost Man-high", and some must have been close to Hobbit height, as Sam and Frodo were able to disguise themselves as Orcs in Mordor.

They were roughly humanoid in shape with pointed ears, sharpened teeth and grimy skin. Their appearance was considered revolting by most of the other races. Orcs made no beautiful things, but many clever ones including machines, tools, weapons, and instruments of torture. They were delighted by wheels, engines, and explosions, and could tunnel and mine as well as any but the most skilled Dwarves, though they are often untidy and dirty.

They hated themselves, and had an even deeper secret hatred for Melkor, thus resulting as a violent and warlike race in a perpetual state of chaos with itself and others. Despite their abominable nature, Orcs were often crafty and clever rather than dim-witted. Tolkien writes that they were capable smiths and craftsmen, though their weapons and belongings are described as crude compared to those of the Free Peoples.

Orcs also developed tunnel-making, so as to dwell underground away from the light. Wickedness and violence were their nature, and it was not uncommon for them to kill each other in petty quarrels. Orcs had unchangeable disdain for all Elves, Dwarves, and Men, though they fought alongside wicked men under Morgoth and then Sauron in the First and Third Age and were also said to have made alliances with wicked dwarves.

In Tolkien's Sindarin language, Orc is orch , plural yrch. The original sense of the word seems to be "bogey", "bogeyman" , that is, something that provokes fear, as seen in the Quenya cognate urko , pl. In the old English Orc means "demon. This same word was also used by Legolas , indicating that it is Sindarin. In The Lord of the Rings film , the Orcs are voiced by extras.

In Peter Jackson 's two film trilogies, Orcs range greatly in appearance. Skin colour ranges from bone white Azog and Bolg , to peachy colours orcs like the lieutenant Gothmog in The Return of the King , to shades of green.

Most Orcs however are shown as having darker shades of black or brown skin. Some are more human-like than others; Azog looks like a large and muscular but pale and hairless human, whilst Gothmog has a very deformed face.

Thuringwethil provides the only direct evidence available but, I think, reasons incorrectly from it. But even if we assume elvishness in orcish stock, this certainly doesn't imply immortality. After all, the line of Elros has elvish genes, but is not immortal. Someone else can give you the Arda theology on this, but I don't think Melkor could breed an immortal race. Ithrynluin seeker of solace.

Dragons are supposed to be Melko's creatures , and appear immortal. Thuringethil, I'm sorry. I mean't no offense. You are of course entitled to your opinion. Having said that, I didn't present anything I said as a 'one and only truth'. On the subject of dragons , I don't see them as immortal. Smaug to me seems to be going through an aging process. Gorthaur said:. I think it's relatively safe to assume that Eru is the one who provides the souls for his children.

Therefore, would Eru provide souls for Orcs? I don't think so. Why is it safe to assume that Eru 'provides the souls' for his children in the way that you state it? I find it a strange idea that one generation could have souls but not the next generation. There is no offence! I agree that we orcs are intelligent, especially in comparison to you humans! You must log in or register to reply here. Similar threads E. Poll Apart from the first age balrogs and dragons, are the evil beings of the 3rd age stronger than the evil beings of the first age?

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